RVing in Winter: What We Learned the Hard Way

RVing in Winter: What We Learned the Hard Way

Winter RV life hits different.

In this episode, we’re sharing what an unexpected ice storm taught us about staying safe, protecting your rig, and keeping your sanity when temperatures drop fast. From the “unhook and drain” rule that can save your pipes, to the little things that make a big difference in staying warm, we’re breaking down what actually worked for us (and what we’d never do again).

We also talk through simple ways to handle moisture, avoid common cold-weather mistakes, and prepare your RV so you’re not scrambling when the freeze hits.

If you’ve ever wondered how RV life holds up in winter… this one’s for you.

Transcript

 we're the Essary family and we're ex exploring America one destination at a time. On this episode of TravelEssary, we are going to share our experience in RVing in the winter, and some tips we think you should follow.

Let's chat.

Welcome and thank you for joining us on this episode. As we talk about. RVing in the winter and some tips and tricks that we have learned that will hopefully help you during those really cold times. There are moments in winter that you just don't want to go outside, that even your state will close down because of the winter storm when

warnings will go out that you'll have to run to whatever convenient or grocery store and grab your eggs, bread, and milk to last through the night. So we're going to talk about what we did to not only survive it, but also some tips and tricks that we learned to hopefully help you survive. My biggest tip when RVing in the winter, don't do it. And ladies and gentlemen, don't do it. That is the absolute easiest.

Advice we could possibly give anyone. Unfortunately, it's not really logical or possible for like 99% of the population. So yeah, if you're a full-time RVing and you don't have a brick and stick home to get to, you're just kind of stuck unfortunately.

But there are some things that you can do. And I know that we're never supposed to start with our number one because we want to build up that anticipation for people to keep on listening. But I'm going to start with the easiest and the one that we did to survive the winter storm. Okay? Stay safe, unhook and drain.

Yeah. So , let's kind of get into our experience a little bit. , We were in Texas when the ice storm of January 20, 26 hit, we were in Houston, Texas. So, not the, not the bad part. It wasn't that bad there. . We do get into it a little bit in February's bonus episode, if you've listened to that on our Patreon today, we're gonna get into that a little bit more and we're going to, you know, just add, add some tips to go with it.

But yeah, Houston really didn't get hit that bad. It wasn't bad, but there was about two days that, well, there was one day for sure that never got above freezing. So we were frozen for 24 hours.

Now my suggestion and the way that I do it, if it's one or two hours and you're gonna be around the 31, 32 mark, you don't really have anything to worry about. That's not enough time for water to truly freeze and to cause you issues. If you're gonna be below freezing for six, seven hours during the nighttime, or if you're dropping down into the teens, you better prepare yes, because if not, you are in for a heartache.

Whenever you get up in the morning. Yeah. We actually saw some people in the campground. We were in,, several people around us, several, in fact, the people in front of us and behind us, all the way around us both had water leaks. Yeah. After that hard freeze came through, and I was so very grateful. We were not dealing with what some of them were dealing with.

The one behind us was so bad they were like ripping out their flooring. It was bad. So I'm going to quickly get into some of the builds of RVs and just try to help explain this, , not mansplain it, but explain it as best as I possibly can. Well, I can't, well explain it because I don't understand it. So you go right ahead.

So a lot of your older ones before the PEC system. Now the Peck system is the plastic. They're color coded red and, blues, your cold water, red is your hot water. And now the new systems, they're almost in 95% of new houses. They expand and, after they swell up from being frozen.

They'll actually contract and go back to their regular size and you don't have any issues with them and you'll be fine. Now the connection part is the part that freezes 'cause it doesn't move. And usually they're plastic. The older RVs, and I'm talking anywhere from 2010, , and older, more than likely they're going to have the RV or the , manufactured home.

PVC piping thin wall. A little bit of freezing. If it expands, it's going to crack. Huge issues. We've actually had an RV in the early two thousands that we had a hard freeze. We did not unhook 2009. We didn't drain, we took off to , your parents' house. Mm-hmm. And we stayed there , for it to get over.

Well, we got a call from, , the person we were renting the spot from, and they were like, Hey, you have water coming out of your rv. Because our RV froze. It wasn't just water. It was a waterfall. The tool froze and broke. Yeah. And it just flooded everything. Water coming, just pouring out of the back end of our rv.

Yeah. Our flooring had to be replaced, you don't want that to happen. You don't want anything underneath the brake. And then a lot of these have the new insulation that's underneath. I will say, , that was back in 2009. Our second RV to ever own. Our first one to own through the winter, and yes, be in through the winter.

Well live through the winter. Yes, and we learned a lot of things from that one winter. We experienced in that rv, like we've learned so much. , And Jeremy was absolutely not willing to take that risk again. And I do believe that saved us a lot of heartache. , You know, the, the ones in front of us and the ones behind us that had those water leaks were both class A, I don't know if they're more susceptible than our fifth wheel.

They were newer class a's they had the PEC system. Okay. But from what I gather, and one of them even, even had heated floors that we'll get into here in a little bit, and it wasn't the pipe, it was the fitting that broke and correct around the hose because they didn't do the easy part of making sure that your water connections, especially in the bathrooms where the shower is, that is warming enough, they actually close that door.

And , it wasn't getting sufficient heat and that's what busted it, because that piping is on the outside wall. Yeah. The people behind us even had a heated hose. Yes. And that wasn't good enough. Well, the hose isn't the part that broke. It was actually the shower part that broke that. They had to get fixed and replaced the people behind us.

It was their underbelly that, , they weren't running any kind of heat in their underbelly. There was no way for heat. And so it just super, super cooled in there and that's what broke on their end. So there's so many different scenarios, so many different ways that they're built. If you have the pecs, more than likely it's not gonna be , your pipe that burst.

It's going to be a fitting. 90% of the time it's gonna be an elbow. Mm-hmm. Because that's just the easiest spot. Even in , our manufactured home that we had, our stick and brick house that we had, that's where it broke, was on a 90. Nineties are just on our water heater. Yes. Mm-hmm. That's, that's just kind of where they break at.

Now, most RVs, especially your newer models, what we did is we disconnected not only our hose from the spigot outside. But also the hose that connects to our RV and we drain the hose. Now, I didn't do this one night, and I got up to go to the bathroom at like two, three o'clock in the morning. Mm-hmm. I turned the water on because I wanted to see if we had water and it was frozen.

It was frozen. Jeremy panicked. It was like two or three O' in full panic in the morning. I should have taken a video, but in the heat of the moment, I was all about trying to figure out what was going on. He goes out there like throws on shoes and a jacket, and he goes out there to make sure we're not like leaking water anywhere or anything crazy.

And so the first thing I did is I tried to shut, the outside spigot off and I disconnected the hose. My hose wasn't frozen. The spigot where the 90 degree is? Mm-hmm. That's where it froze at first, so I was able to unhook. None of our stuff got frozen, so unhooked both sides. Short story. Got it taken care of, left it on because I couldn't shut the spigot off because it was frozen.

Yeah. Uh, about midday, mid midmorning, you know, 10 30, 11 o'clock we hear running water outside and I went to go turn the spigot off. Yeah. So that's how we figured out that it was defrosted. And I already know there's gonna be a lot of people out there that say, well, you know, you're supposed to drip your water.

And that prevents it from freezing, even at the spigot. But in a lot of these campgrounds, they do not allow dripped water. And if you are caught, you will get red flagged and you might even get asked to leave the park. Your reservations will be canceled because a lot of them are on septics and , they can't handle, you know, 200 people dripping their water for five days straight.

, It causes major issues. So, 'cause they're already dripping the facilities, right? They're already dripping their showers. , They're already running the toilets. They're running faucets inside. Yeah. Their facilities. And then you're adding even more water and are using more water as well.

Yeah. Matter of fact, we read one online where they were like, okay, , you have this many gallons per spot. Yeah. You better hope your neighbor doesn't use it all per day. Yeah. And then, yeah, because their septic system was overran, so you have to be very mindful. Now, granted the one we were in was on city sewer, so mm-hmm.

We really didn't have an issue with that, but they still were asking people not to drip their waters to, it's against their policies. A lot of 'em. , I know it doesn't make sense because you're thinking of like, well, in my house I drip them. Well, it's your house. It's one person. Your solo all by yourself.

It's only one dwelling unit. Whenever you have over a hundred dwelling units that are all on the same line, all on the same septic, it just can't handle that amount of use. Mm-hmm. So just be mindful of that. That's why I always just disconnect everything from inside, outside. I disconnect. So we disconnect the water.

We drained black, gray and the sink, so we drained all of our lines, both gray tanks. I disconnected the sewer line and made sure there was no water in there because I have heard of people, they're it busted that they leave a little. , It's called a p trap, but they leave a little bend in it. Mm-hmm. So it doesn't get , that sewer smell back up and that freezes and then they can't use , that hose

mm-hmm. Because it's frozen. So I disconnected all of that. And then underneath vast majority, I'm talking like 90% of 'em probably you have a low point drain line. And ours is in the very back of, well, actually ours is underneath the kitchen sink. And you turn , the hot and cold off and it drains your water heater.

Make sure that you turn that off 'cause you don't want to burn up the heating element. Burn up your heating element. Yeah. , Turn your , water heater equipment off. Drain your hotline and your cold line. Open up your faucets, showers, faucets. Open up everything. That way if water does freeze, 'cause it expands at least hopefully.

If it's in the line, it'll have a place to go. Mm-hmm. And not get stuck and then break something. I think that's one of the main concerns when people are RVing is like frozen water, busted pipes. That is like one of the most concerns in the wintertime. Yeah. The second biggest concern is staying warm in your rv.

And a lot of people get this wrong. . You need to be cautious of your use of space heaters. So there is a proper way to use them and an improper way to use them. There are some people who say, it's fine, I've done it for 10 years. And then there will be people who say, I will never put one in my rv. We fall somewhere in the middle of that.

, I believe that you have the really hardcores that this will never happen. That I'll never put one in my RV because , , space heaters were not safe. Mm-hmm. Now they have gotten a hundred times more safe. Yeah. Do they still run a possibility of defaulting or messing up your system?

Yes, but they are safer. Yeah, so we are very fortunate and in our newer fifth wheel model we have an electric fireplace and it works really good you guys, like a lot of the times that's all we need. That's the only heat we need now it. Definitely was not sufficient whenever that Arctic for instances like that.

But we have rules when it comes to using our space heater. Number one is it never ever, ever goes on an extension cord. Do not put, don't do it. People. Your space heaters on an extension cord, is it gonna last for a little bit? For sure. Yes. It's gonna last for a little bit, but eventually. It is not going to do what it needs to do, and you are gonna have serious issues.

I cannot tell you how many posts that I read during that week when that storm came through all across. The states where that was happening of RVs burning down because of that exact reason. Another thing that I'll say about space heaters, especially extension cords, because all the ones that we've been to so far, they have a 30 and a one 10 plug outside that's usually on a 20 amp space.

Heater will not pull. 20 amps, but if it short circuits and it gets into fire and overheating and that kind of stuff, it still will not trip that 20 amp. You have to be careful what you hook that up to because if you put it on it an outside extension, you know, an outside plug and you run it into your rv and that's what you run your space here, it won't trip it if something drastic happens.

I didn't know that. So that's another thing that people are like, oh, they're so unsafe. Well, yes, if you put it on, you know, a 20, a 30 amp breaker, it's not going to trip it if it has issues, right? It needs to be more on a 10 15 amp breaker. Depending on how big it is. Another rule that we have is we try to purchase safe space heaters.

Like Jeremy said, you know, guys gotta do it. They have come a long ways. Yes. There are still some you can buy that have like no safety features to them whatsoever. They're cheap. They're like 10, $12 at Walmart or Dollar General, and they have zero safety features on them. I remember the ones at my grandma's house, and this is the ones that a lot of people don't like.

It has when you touch 'em when they're hot. Yeah. You touch 'em, they're hot, and then they have like the little. The, the small little legs that come up to a V and like, they're not stable at all, right? They're just there and if they fall over or if you push them over, they just continuously run because there's no safety feature to stop them.

At all. Yeah. Now ours has a safety , feature on the bottom of the space heater and it's so incredibly sensitive. If our RV isn't level, it won't turn on. We've had that issue before. We've had that issue before. Like, oh, the RV's not level, we can't use the space heater. It won't turn on. Our stairs have a little lip.

, To protect , the corner. Mm-hmm. And if the front is on that corner and the back is down, there's enough that won't allow that to touch the ground and fully make contact. Yeah. And people do not tape those suckers up. No. No. Let them do what they are supposed to do. Yeah. Leave the safety features alone.

And then another role that I have. Jeremy doesn't agree with me on this one, but that's okay because he has his rules when it comes to the connections, and I have my rules when it comes to the space heater is we do not run it when we're out of the trailer and we do not run it at night because one, we're under the covers at night and with our electric heater being under the covers has been, it's been fine.

It's when you get out of the covers that you get really cold. So at night, even when it was down in the, like the twenties outside, we were. Comfortable under our blankets and stuff. We were comfortable under our blankets. No one got super cold, but whenever you do go to get out of your blankets, it's cold and it's like 44 degrees inside the rv.

Yeah, it's cold. It's cold and, but I, I just don't feel comfortable enough. I have three children in this rv. I do not feel comfortable enough to run it at night because it just takes a moment in these things to go up in flames.

Those are the safety features that we have when it comes to space heaters. Some other things that we definitely talk about that we have seen other people do that I know of, , because of my job and things is some of these newer RVs, especially whenever you start getting into the Class Cs and the class a's, uh, some of the fifth wheels have 'em as well, but they have heated floors.

Which are super nice, but heated floors do not heat the underbelly, so just keep that in mind. Your water connections that are underneath heated floors do not heat that area sufficiently enough. To keep anything from freezing. So they are super nice whenever you gotta get up. I wish we had heated floors and it's like 32 degrees outside and you're walking on like 60 degree floors.

I wish we had heated floors. Yeah, so a tip that I'm gonna give , you know, depending on the layout, if you're in a travel trailer and you don't have a lot of slides or something, this is more difficult.

But I highly suggest putting down rugs or carpets in the wintertime when it's really cold. It helped us so much. We have linoleum in our living spaces in our big area, and we put down an area rug, and that carpet helps so much. There is a vast difference from. Carpet to no carpet. Yes, it helped a lot. It helped keep that space a lot warmer and a lot more comfortable.

And then another big like common sense tip that I can give, if you're RVing in the winter, whether you're a weaker or you're full times. , Pack more blankets than you think you will ever need. So if you're a full-timer and you're gonna be going all year long like we are, we store extra blankets during the summertime under our bed where we have extra space or in totes or something like that.

We have the space that we make sure we bring extra blankets because we know come winter dime, we're going to need them. One thing that I will say about that is not throw blankets. Not something that doesn't cover your body 100% because then you're not actually getting the insulation that you could get with a full blanket and keeping the heat actually all together.

I don't know why he said that. We have lots of throw blankets and I love my throw blankets. And even in the summer they do not leave my living room. Absolutely. Like they're on my couch 24 7. But the extra blankets that we have, no they are not throw blankets. They're full blankets. Like on our kings size bed, you know the teenagers, they have extra blankets that fit over their beds.

They have several. But on our kings size bed, we have three blankets that fit fully over the king size bed. So we threw the toddler in there at us a lot of the times, and , we had, three or four layers , of king size blankets, and we were plenty warm. It kept us nice and cozy in there. Layers will keep you warm.

Remember that It doesn't matter if you got. Seven sheets. It will keep you warm because layers is the way that it just works. Yeah. Dress warm. Do not go outside thinking you're all big, bad and stuff with shorts and a t-shirt. Okay. Just dress warm. Yeah. So I am the person that I wanna be comfortable when I'm at home and , less is more , if you get my meaning.

But whenever that storm came through, that arctic storm I was wearing socks, which is a really big deal for me. Yeah. Like I don't, I only own three pairs of socks 'cause I do not wear socks. And I was walking around in like a hoodie. Yeah. Sweat. That's a big deal for me. Sweat, hoodies, socks.

But I, but it just helps you stay warm without feeling like you need to have a bazillion space heaters and things like that. Especially if you have the fireplace and , you have one of those nice fluffy little blankets or whatever. Yeah, get some stuff.

Get all little cozy and everything. Get some fuzzy socks. Get a couple of blankets. Hold on till winter's over and deal with it. Yeah, like that's all I can tell you. If you're gonna be in an RV in the winter, . You will have times that you're miserable. I mean, there's no way around it.

You're going to have times of misery if you RV in the winter. So how to be less? Miserable and protect your stuff even more. Go south. So , here's some tips and tricks that we have for you. If you are in a class A, B, C, or you have a diesel truck, you need to run it ever so often because if not, fuel can gel up.

Your engine block can freeze and you'll have to wait for a really long time or have to get out there with some type of torch or heating element. To defrost your engine block, you need to run them. Same thing with generators. You need to run them. Number one so they don't freeze up. And number two, make sure that they work in case electricity does go out.

At least your backup works. I don't, I can't tell you how many times that I've heard people go, oh yeah, I have a generator. When was the last time , you ran it? Oh, whenever I bought it four years ago. There's no guarantee that sucker works. You need to make sure that your backup stuff works. And for those that have a Class A, B, and C.

You can run those engines and at least get a little bit of heat from those engines if you don't have a space heater or electricity goes off, you can run those engines to pull in a heat just like you normally would on a vehicle. Yeah. And there were several people that did that that week.

Yep. Whenever that front came through, there were several people around us who ran it like every two hours. Well, it's really cool because now they have actual sensors that, and because, , we have , the Auto Star, you can push a button and . Your truck or your vehicle starts that there's sensors that you can put on it that once your engine block gets to a certain degree, , whenever it's so cold, it will autostart and run until it heats up to a certain point and then shut off .

The people behind us meant they really had a hard time. I felt so bad for them there. They had flooding and flooring issues. Anyway, they ran there so much in the middle of the night, they had to go refill fuel. Their Class A, they had to go get fuel. And go find somewhere that was open in the middle of this and go get fuel and then come back.

They were gone for like an hour filling that thing up, and I felt so bad for 'em. They had three kids in there too. They had three kids that they had to, and they had a pull in the slide ins. I mean, I can only imagine what they went through, but even if you, you know, if you got a, a 3,500 or, you know, a 2,500 up.

Three quarter to a ton, diesel engine. You definitely need to start it every once in a while or if you know you're not gonna be leaving like I did, until it got really warm, then I just let my car sit. I didn't do anything to it. Like I just let it sit. 'cause I knew it wasn't going to totally freeze up the block.

And if it did, it was gonna sit there long enough that. The sun itself was going to warm the engine back up, and then of course I went and checked all the fluids and everything before I actually started it. So take care of your engines. This is a big one, and especially for those people, the annuals, or you're living in your rv, , in one spot and you're not moving anywhere.

Or even if you're going , , spot to spot. Fill up your propane, make sure you have enough propane. We have central heating and air, we have air conditioners on top. We actually have a heating element in the belly that's, , we can run , and get heat that way without having to run space heaters or anything else.

And it runs on propane. My uncle did it during the whole thing, he ran his propane but it only lasted for three days. So make sure you're prepared for any kinda long, extensive stay, that the roads might be iced up and you can't get out, that you have enough propane to survive.

You know, if that's your main cooking source, , if that's your main heating element, make sure you have enough propane to survive that. So fill your propanes, get ready for the winter. , Take care of your heating elements. That does include , your water heater. Now, some of these newer ones, they're really nice ones.

Brinkley, I'm gonna call you out. They have, , insta heats, so not really a whole lot of threat there. But if you have outdoor, , water heater elements like we do, make sure that those guys don't freeze up. That's where the whole drainage thing comes in is drain them. That way that water doesn't freeze up there and cause you issues.

'cause changing one of those out is not fun and it's kind of expensive. My very last thing that I'm going to, I'm gonna say is protect your water lines and sewer. There's so many different ways of doing this. So many different ways. You can get the electric ones. You can take , the little foam noodles, the little foam swimming noodles or whatever.

I've seen a lot of these, and they duct tape those around there. And then they do the drip system. And that's supposed to keep everything heated up , at least above freezing so you can survive. If you do have a bend in your sewer line, take the bend out., Most of the time you don't have to worry about your gray or your black.

, The gray going from , the bathroom. If you have a second gray, that is the kitchen. Just because the way that it's designed, especially the way ours is designed, I would suggest opening that up and making sure you have no water collecting if you're gonna do, dishes or something. 'cause if that freezes and that main belly part breaks, you are in trouble.

You're replacing , almost the entire system. So just be prepared for that. Make sure you don't have anything inside your tanks. If you're not gonna heat them up. Last thing, protect your underbelly. I've seen so many people with the insulated boards that you know, if you're just gonna take 'em and you're gonna duct tape 'em, number one, don't ever use duct tape on a rv.

But if you're just gonna tape them to your RV and hope that the wind doesn't blow them away, it's gonna be a long. A really long night 'cause you're just gonna be up and down because they don't, they're not wind resistant if you're gonna build something. We just saw one that we walked by that actually had two by fours that they built and that's how they held the underbelly, , foam board's up.

Fantastic. Some places don't let you do that, so just be very mindful of what the rules and regulations are , for what you gotta do. , But those are some really easy, simple tricks. If you're up north, these are two huge ones. Number one, remove the snow off your rv. You definitely don't want a roof falling in or leak, 'cause now you have a leak and you're freezing.

That's not good. Watch your steps. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Our steps were so icy. Watch your steps. Our steps were like so icy and it's crazy. So we have the really nice ones that fold up actually into our rv. They're really nice. They're very stable. . And we could have, and now thinking back to it, we probably should have those nights where we were getting some type of accumulation and brought 'em in.

We could have brought 'em in and closed the door and we would've been perfectly fine. 'cause we would, we were able to get in and out, you know, by letting the stairs down and then bringing them back up. Some of those that their stairs go underneath the underbelly of the rv. You, once you put those up, you can't get in.

Yeah. Make sure you have some type of deicer. To help take care of those steps.

'cause you don't want to get hurt on vacation. Okay. Wait, I'm gonna address something you have not done yet. Oh my goodness. I missed something. Yes. I thought I was pretty extensive on this. The humidity in the winter. Oh yeah. I don't think about that is insane. So. If you're not careful and you're just running heat and you're not taking the, that is true.

The precautions that I'm about to talk to you about, you're going to get mold in your trailer somewhere. Yep. Especially if it's for a long period of time. You know, for us it was just like a week here, a few days there. We've never had extended times, but we still take those precautions 'cause I do not want.

Moisture in my trailer. And there have been mornings where we woke up and there was water dripping down the windows and onto our walls and stuff. So, so much condensation. Yes. So much condensation from the heat. I can tell you why that happened. And the temperature difference that's outside. Yeah. So a few things that , we have a dehumidifier in our rv,, for the most part stays in the bathroom 'cause that's really the only place.

We need it because of the hot showers that we take in there. Mm-hmm. Um, but occasionally I will bring it into other parts of the house and run it, especially if it's winter time. , We brought it in here where we were having all the heating elements. , Another tip is just crack open your vents. Every RV has.

Ceiling vents, we have roof vents, crack them open. You can turn your fan on or not turn your fan on, but just having them cracked open helps minimize that condensation by like 50%. Like it helps so incredibly much. And now in the summertime, your air conditioner actually helps reduce condensation, but in the winter you're running heat.

So that's a different thing. Um, if those two combine. Do not work. Make sure you are ting off the water that drips down off of your windows because it can run in behind your couches for days and you not even know that. So make sure , you're just ting that off so it's not running and dripping down your walls.

And then the last thing that helps with, , the mold condensation issue is make sure you have some sort of barrier between your mattress and the board that your mattress is laying on. What I saw be, right before we started, we bought our rv. Is there are, what are those things called? I'm not a hundred percent.

I mean, they're like, you can put 'em in your garage to kinda help those to help, , not accumulate the dirt and grime and everything. They're like these rubber mats with , I'm not sure what they're called, are breathable. I don't dunno what they're called either, but they're on Amazon. And a lot of people said they put this between their mattress and the board that their mattress is on, and it helps keep airflow.

Like that's what you want. You want airflow. Okay. So we don't have anything that does not get airflow during the times of where condensation could build up. And it's not only our mattress, it's any mattress that touches wood. You gotta make sure, oh, it doesn't even have to be wood. So bunk houses. So in the summer bunk rooms in the summer, we were somewhere that.

Jeremy wasn't with us. I remember what was happening. We were dealing with an insane amount of condensation and Jasper's bed on the linoleum when I picked it up the next morning was like soaking wet from condensation. Like it was running down our walls. And I think it's because I hadn't been running the air conditioner because it was so nice outside and it, but it was so humid outside.

But yeah, so be cautious of the condensation that could build up. Yeah. Humidity is actually a little bit worse in the winter because you don't think about it because you're just cold. But if there's any time, well, in the summer, you always can just turn on your air conditioners. Yeah. Open up windows, air it out.

I mean, all sorts of different stuff. But in the wintertime because of how cold it gets and then the cold and your heat you're causing mm-hmm. You're causing that humidity to happen. Yes. And so RVing in the winter, not impossible. No, a little bit miserable. Totally did, and you definitely have to take extra  steps in order to do it successfully, but it can be done.

Um, hopefully you don't have any horror stories about your RVing in the wintertime. If you do, let us know. If you have extra tips for wintering in the rv, let us know about that as well.